From: owner-UKTeX@nottingham.ac.uk To: UKTeX Distribution: ; Subject: UKTeX Digest V94 #39 Reply-To: UKTeX@tex.ac.uk Errors-To: owner-UKTeX@nottingham.ac.uk Distribution: world MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:04:08 +0100 Message-ID: <10703.782147048@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> Sender: cczdao@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk UKTeX Digest Friday, 14 Oct 1994 Volume 94 : Issue 39 Today's Topics: Spelling checker for Unix at CTAN? re: Inserting space Re: Inserting space Re:Inserting space re: latex: emphasis within emphasis Q: BibTeX and HTML LaTeX 2e Re: UKTUG AGM afternoon programme: What's New in TeX Re: UKTUG AGM afternoon programme: What's New in TeX `PCL' fonts on the HP LaserJet 4 Plus PC version of Latex? Re: PC version of Latex? help with dvidoc please Administrivia: Moderators: Peter Abbott (UK TeX Users Group) and David Osborne (University of Nottingham) Contributions: UKTeX@tex.ac.uk Subscription and unsubscription requests: UKTeX-request@tex.ac.uk (message body = "subscribe uktex" or "unsubscribe uktex", [no quotes]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Oct 1994 10:24:15 +0100 From: "S.C.Wu" Subject: Spelling checker for Unix at CTAN? Is there a spelling checker on Unix especially for TeX file? The built-in spell doesn't recognise '\end' even it is not a wrong spelling. Regards, _/_/ Billy Wu Janet: s.c.wu@geo.hull.ac.uk _/ _/_/_/ School of Geog. & Earth Resource _/_/ _/_/_/_/ University of Hull Fax: - 44 - 482 - 466 340 _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ Hull HU6 7RX Telephone: - 44 - 482 - 46 6065 _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ England, U.K. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Oct 1994 09:40:03 -0400 From: Jerry Leichter Subject: re: Inserting space [Robert Davidge asks:] I hope you cna help me. Our local texperts are proving silent on this question. We have at Sussex a thing called thesis.sty which we use for writing theses, but the problem may occur in other latex styles. I am not a Texer so can not write in this language. The problem is to do with the list of figures. It seems to have a fixed amount of space between the numbering and the caption. This works fine until you have a chapter number > 9 and a figure no. > 9. Then ther is no space left before your caption starts. AN EXAMPLE 1.1 The ...... 2.10 The...... 10.1 The ...... 10.10The ...... I would not like to see the mess produced if you had more than 99 figures! (You'd get an overfull hbox message, and the line would shift to the right, with the number still butted up against the text.) In the standard styles, the formatting of a table of contents and list of figures line is defined through commands with names like \l@section, \l@chapter, \l@figure, and so on. The higher-level "\l@" commands often have idiosyncratic special definitions, but most "\l@" commands - and most likely all those that likely to have this problem - use a LaTeX internal utility command called \@dottedtocline to do all the real work. Here are some examples from the "book" style file: \def\l@section{\@dottedtocline{1}{1.5em}{2.3em}} \def\l@subsection{\@dottedtocline{2}{3.8em}{3.2em}} ... \def\l@figure{\@dottedtocline{1}{1.5em}{2.3em}} \let\l@table\l@figure %i.e., make them the same The arguments provided to \@dottedtocline are: \@dottedtocline{LEVEL}{INDENT}{NUMWIDTH}{TITLE}{PAGE} The last two will actually be provided as arguments of the corresponding "\l@" command. LEVEL is the nesting level (related to the tocdepth counter). INDENT is the indentation of the first line of the entry from the left margin of the containing environment. NUMWIDTH is the size you are concerned about: The unit number will be left-justified in a box of this width, which will be placed immediately to the left of the TITLE. (NUMWIDTH also sets the indenta- tion for any subsequent lines in this entry, if you have a very long section title. This actually isn't likely to happen except for figures - and even then, it's usually a bad idea.) So: Take a look at your style file and search for definitions of the "\l@" commands of interest. Increase the NUMWIDTH argument, and you should have more room for all your various sections, subsections, and so on. Note that you'll need to apply a little thought to what sizes you choose, since you are controlling the indentation of the line, not "just" the size of the box containing the number. -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 05:43:54 -0400 From: "B.J. Herbison" Subject: Re: Inserting space > The problem is to do with the list of figures. It seems to have a fixed > amount of space between the numbering and the caption. This works fine > until you have a chapter number > 9 and a figure no. > 9. Then ther > is no space left before your caption starts. > AN EXAMPLE > 10.10The ...... The spacing is controlled by the macro \l@figure in the style file. In the versions of LaTeX I've used this is defined as a `dotted-line contents macro' with three parameters, two of them for spacing. When I ran into the same problem I just redefined \l@figure with larger values for the spacing parameters. It was for a previous job so I don't have the LaTeX anymore, but your local TeXperts should be able to show you how to do it. B.J. B.J. Herbison Herbison Consulting Another Asylum bj@herbison.com +1 508 534-1050 18 Drummer Lane 42 29 30 N / 071 44 10 W Leominster, MA 01453 USA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:04:00 -0700 From: "Wagner, Zdenek" Subject: Re:Inserting space Robert Davidge wrote: > We have at Sussex a thing called thesis.sty which we use for writing > theses, but the problem may occur in other latex styles. > > I am not a Texer so can not write in this language. > > The problem is to do with the list of figures. It seems to have a fixed > amount of space between the numbering and the caption. This works fine > until you have a chapter number > 9 and a figure no. > 9. Then ther > is no space left before your caption starts. > > AN EXAMPLE > > 1.1 The ...... > 2.10 The...... > 10.1 The ...... > 10.10The ...... The processing of the list of figures ends up with the command \l@figure which has to be defined in the style (actually is in article.sty, book.sty, report.sty). Its default definition is: \newcommand\l@figure{\@dottedtocline{1}{1.5em}{2.3em}} The first argument of \@dottedtocline is used only in the table of contents, so do not change its value. The second argument is the total indentation and the third argument is the width of the box for numbers. This is the value which you should increase. If you need e.g. 3.5em, you have to redefine \l@figure (and similarly \l@table for the list of tables) as: \renewcommand\l@figure{\@dottedtocline{1}{1.5em}{3.5em}} Remember that commands containing ``@'' as a part of the name are not allowed in the document. The easiest way is to make your own style which may contain just the line given above, call it e.g. mylof.sty and then use \documentstyle[mylof]{...} in LaTeX2.09, or \documentclass{...} \usepackage{mylof} in LaTeX2e. Regards Zdenek Wagner Please, notice the new address: The old addresses (i.e. and ) will continue to work for some time... ------------------------------ Date: 09 Oct 1994 10:46:56 -0400 From: bbeeton Subject: re: latex: emphasis within emphasis in uktex 94 #36, you've brought up the problem that using ordinary lightface type for emphasis within italic emphasis makes the "*most important* text look *completely unimportant*". i can't give you a latex solution, but i have observed that in the u.s. publication "national geographic", where captions for photographs and other graphics are routinely set in italic, elements that would be "emphasized" (latin botanical names, names of ships, et al.) are sent in an unslanted italic, so the letterforms are not the same as ordinary roman text. i can't tell you how long this practice has been in effect, but i did check once, and believe that it predates knuth's cmu* font. i believe that the fonts used in the "geographic" were designed specifically for that publication, so this is obviously quite intentional. if not necessarily entirely traditional. this might be an idea you could use rather than underlining. -- bb ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 1994 13:38:23 +0000 From: okp@cs.tu-berlin.de (Oli Kai Paulus) Subject: Q: BibTeX and HTML I want to use bibtex citations in a latex document (easy) and generate a html document thereof (also easy) as follows (not so easy): - write the latex document and use a command \htmlcite for citations - in the {dvi,ps} version the \htmlcite should be expanded to some reference like [Tex94] with the corresponding entry in the bibliography. That's plain bibtex. - in the html version, which is generated using some latex2html program, the \htmlcite should be expanded to a reference [Tex94], which is linked to the corresponding bibliography entry. That's plain latex2html. - but: the entry in the bibliography should contain the URL of the document and the URL should be sensitive, i.e. a link to "itself" (the original version of the referenced document). A quick and dirty solution to this is to put the URL in one of the fields of a document's bibtex entry using a command from html.sty that expands to a sensitve URL. A nicer solution would be to define an entry type HyperDoc for .bib files that contains a field URL: which gets translated into some construct in the corresponding .bbl file that can be processed appropriatly by latex2html. Therefore you'd need a special bibtex style file. I could imagine I'm not the first to need this. Does anyone know of a solution? Any help is greatly appreciated (please email to me or post to comp.text.tex). Oli Kai Paulus email: okp@cs.tu-berlin.de voice: +49.30.314-24944/73603 fax : +49.30.314-24929 Project KIT-MIHMA * TU Berlin FR 5-12 * Franklin- 28/29 * 10587 Berlin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:02:49 +0100 From: Alun Moon Subject: LaTeX 2e I've heard bits about the latest version of LaTeX (2e I think). It sounds very good. How do I get hold of a personal copy to try out, so I can decide if its going to be the thing I need to write my PhD thesis with. Alun Moon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:20:21 -0000 From: cmacleod@mcs.dund.ac.uk (Colin Macleod) Subject: Re: UKTUG AGM afternoon programme: What's New in TeX In article <14216.781889764@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.ukD> you wrote: ` Philip Taylor: The NTS Project ` This is a project to investigate systems that might follow on where ` TeX leaves off. It is a long-term project, and Philip will talk ` about its aims and achievements so far. Is there any on-line or other info available about this project for people who will not be able to come to this meeting ? Colin Macleod, Technical Officer, Phone: 0382-23181 x4839 Dundee University Maths & Computer Science Dept. 23 Perth Road, Dundee DD1 4HN, Scotland. E-Mail: cmacleod@mcs.dundee.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:40:36 -0400 From: joel@wmi.com (Joel Coltoff) Subject: Re: UKTUG AGM afternoon programme: What's New in TeX I just couldn't resist. I tried but alas I gave in. In the true spirit of Oscar Wilde "The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it." In article <14216.781889764@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> you write: >Jonathan Fine: Using TeX in Radical Ways > > Jonathan will talk about work he has in progress to use TeX as a > processor in ways Knuth never intended it for. > The grammar in this sentence shows that someone, somewhere is using English in ways that it was never intended for. If the truth be known I'm more of the mindset of Clarence Darrow's comment "Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going to speak it to?" Cheers, - Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:37:48 -0000 From: howard s goodman Subject: `PCL' fonts on the HP LaserJet 4 Plus My department has just bought an HP LaserJet 4 Plus printer. Besides the `Standard 35' abominations (Times, Helvetica, Palatino etc.) it also has a rather nice collection of internal scalable `PCL' typefaces, including Univers, a Garamond, and a bootleg Optima called `Omega'. Now, I am told that there is no way that these `PCL' fonts can be accessed from PostScript. Is this so, or has anyone succeeded in acces- sing such fonts from TeX/dvips? If not, why oh why should manufacturers of PostScript-compatible laser printers bother to include them? Thanks in advance for any information ... ... howard. +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | howard s goodman (research student) | school of computer science | | h.s.goodman@cs.bham.ac.uk | university of birmingham | | | birmingham - england - B15 2TT | +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 1994 12:59:14 +0000 From: hsc@eng.cam.ac.uk (H.S. Chiang) Subject: PC version of Latex? Can some one tell me where I can get a PC version of Latex? Regards, Swee ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:46:57 +0000 From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) Subject: Re: PC version of Latex? In article <37jav2$imj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, H.S. Chiang wrote: > Can some one tell me where I can get a PC version of Latex? ftp://ftp.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/msdos/emtex/disk* /betatest/texb12.zip, etc. /emtex-fonts//disk* /macros/latex/... A reasonable document about the process is to be found in /info/setting-up-emtex.tex (this is plain TeX). - -- Robin (Campaign for the Third Programme) Fairbairns rf@cl.cam.ac.uk U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge CB2 3QG, UK Private page: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rf/robin.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 11:25:54 +0000 From: tmw@festival.ed.ac.uk (Tom Wright) Subject: help with dvidoc please Has anybody installed dvidoc I had a first go at installing it but dont have the time to figure out how to run and install it Where can i get pc from ? the tex documents are wierd, i.e. no header. 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