Received: from jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.193]) by granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA27104; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:39:35 GMT Message-Id: <199512021839.SAA27104@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> Received: from nottingham.ac.uk by jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk id <15179-0@jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:11:20 +0000 From: Majordomo list server To: texhax-digest@nottingham.ac.uk Subject: TeXhax Digest V95 #17 Reply-To: TeXhax@tex.ac.uk Errors-To: owner-texhax-digest@nottingham.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:11:20 +0000 Sender: owner-texhax-digest@nottingham.ac.uk TeXhax Digest Saturday, 2 December 1995 Volume 95 : Number 017 (incorporating UKTeX Digest) Today's Topics: TeXhax goes on automatic pilot Printing problems Re: invisible printing / figure separations Re: invisible printing / figure separations Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? Where is Dr. Von Bechtolsheim ? TEX-L: Daily error monitoring report For details of how to subscribe, unsubscribe and contribute articles, see the end of this issue. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David.Osborne@nottingham.ac.uk Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:03:22 +0000 Subject: TeXhax goes on automatic pilot As moderator, it's getting very difficult to find time to edit the digest from individual messages, particularly now that I've started a part-time research degree. So, I've taken a deep breath and put TeXhax on "automatic pilot", under the control of the Majordomo list manager I use here. Majordomo's digest program has been doing sterling work for me on a digest of the Lotus Cars mailing list, the 300th automatically-produced issue of which dropped into my mailbox today, so I'm confident it can do the job. I'll be keeping a close eye on the digester's performance, but I hope this change should mean more regular issues of TeXhax --- assuming people keep sending mail for inclusion in it, of course! ~~David Osborne (TeXhax Digest moderator) ------------------------------ From: Salvatore Ruggieri Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:45:20 +0100 (GMT+0100) Subject: Printing problems I have a big problem with printing PostScript files generated with dvips starting from a Latex document. In the Latex document some \epsffile macro appear, and epsf files (generated with ps2epsi starting from a PostScript from FrameMaker 4) are included and printed correctly only on a few printers (actually, just a Sun). The problem arises mainly with HP, but also with Apple and other printers. The figures are not printed, although I can see them using xdvi or ghostview. Can anyone help me, please ? Thanks. Salvatore Ruggieri ------------------------------ From: Robin Fairbairns Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:19:51 +0000 Subject: Re: invisible printing / figure separations Bruce Leban (texhax 95#16) writes: > I want to be able to print a TeX file with all of the text omitted. > It sounds weird, but I want to print pages with color figures and the > output from the color printer is not high enough quality for the text. Actually, it's not a bad way to proceed... > The idea is to print the pages twice: > > 1) print the pages with the figures deleted > --- easy enough by replacing each figure with a box of the > appropriate size; an easy hack to do this for EPSF figures > is to replace each EPSF file with a dummy version that > contains just the %!EPSF and %%BoundingBox lines. Presumably doable with graphics package draft mode, with even less editing on your part... (Though it does insist on printing a file name...) > 2) print the pages with only the figures > --- this is the problem; obviously I can carefully write code > to position the picture at just the right place for each > page but this is tedious. > > Any suggestions that would make this easier? Use the color package; saying \textcolor[rgb]{0.0,0.0,0.0} would probably get rid of most of it ;-) > Looking in the TeXhax archives, I found a similar request in TeXhax 93.16, > but no answer. FYI, I am using TeX C 2.9 (on a DEC workstation) and > Textures 1.7 (on a Mac), both with LaTeX 2.09. Of course: LaTeX2e wasn't released until June 1994, and even the prerelease of the graphics and color packages didn't happen until April of that year (IIRC). ------------------------------ From: David Carlisle Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 17:30:00 GMT Subject: Re: invisible printing / figure separations > Use the color package; saying \textcolor[rgb]{0.0,0.0,0.0} would > probably get rid of most of it ;-) or \color{white} which is less typing, put it in the preamble then page headers etc will also be white. If there is a requirement to have a draft mode that leaves just white space rather than put in the file name, this is probably easy enough to achieve, well something like the following in a package file loaded after graphics will probably work... \def\Gin@setfile#1#2#3{% \ifx\\#2\\\Gread@false\fi \ifGin@bbox\else \ifGread@ \csname Gread@% \expandafter\ifx\csname Gread@#1\endcsname\relax eps% \else #1% \fi \endcsname{\Gin@base#2}% \else \Gin@nosize{#3}% \fi \fi \Gin@viewport@code \Gin@nat@height\Gin@ury bp% \advance\Gin@nat@height-\Gin@lly bp% \Gin@nat@width\Gin@urx bp% \advance\Gin@nat@width-\Gin@llx bp% \Gin@req@sizes \expandafter\ifx\csname Ginclude@#1\endcsname\relax \Gin@drafttrue \expandafter\ifx\csname Gread#1\endcsname\relax \@latex@error{Can not include graphics of type: #1}\@ehc \global\expandafter\let\csname Gread#1\endcsname\@empty \fi \fi \leavevmode \ifGin@draft \hbox to \Gin@req@width{% % \vrule \hss \vbox to \Gin@req@height{% % \hrule \@width \Gin@req@width \vss % \edef\@tempa{#3}% % \rlap{ \ttfamily\expandafter\strip@prefix\meaning\@tempa}% \vss % \hrule }% \hss % \vrule }% \else \@addtofilelist{#3}% \ProvidesFile{#3}[Graphic file (type #1)]% \setbox\z@\hbox{\csname Ginclude@#1\endcsname{#3}}% \dp\z@\z@ \ht\z@\Gin@req@height \wd\z@\Gin@req@width \box\z@ \fi} ------------------------------ From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:13:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: TeX with an SGML syntax? J. Greg Davidson asks about using SGML as a markup language in place of TeX's macro language. First, it is important to note that SGML is not a programming language: it lacks loops, and has only extremely primitive conditional processing, both essential elements of a programming language (see C. Boehm and G. Jacopini, Comm. ACM, 9, 366--371 (1966)). SGML also lacks general macros, though simple entity definitions are possible. TeX's macro language is very definitely a programming language. There have been a few attempts to put a different face on TeX: (a) Free Software Foundation's Scribe-like TeXinfo system, available at ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/texinfo*.*; (b) Lisp-like markup language: @String{TUGboat = "TUGboat"} @Article{Semenzato:TB12-34-434, author = "Luigi Semenzato and Edward Wang", title = "{{A text processing language should be first a programming language}}", journal = TUGboat, year = "1991", volume = "12", number = "34", pages = "434--441", month = Nov, } (c) SGML2TeX, briefly described on p. 295 of this excellent recent book: @String{pub-ITCP = "International Thomson Computer Press"} @String{pub-ITCP:adr = "20 Park Plaza Suite 1001, Boston, MA 02116 USA"} @Book{Flynn:1995:WH, author = "Peter Flynn", title = "The {WorldWideWeb} Handbook", publisher = pub-ITCP, address = pub-ITCP:adr, year = "1995", ISBN = "1-85032-205-8", LCCN = "TK5105.888 .F56 1995", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, pages = "xix + 351", note = "Includes HTML quick reference guide.", bibdate = "Wed Nov 15 08:24:30 1995", } Because TeX's macro language is powerful, unusual, and idiosyncratic, it is difficult to replace it with something that retains the power, yet is much easier to program, while still preserving all of the underlying functionality of TeX, which is essential for peaceful evolution and preservation of the substantial investment in existing documents (several tens of millions of dollars for the American Mathematical Society alone). My personal view is that the WorldWideWeb's use of HTML, a particular document instance of SGML, is rapidly helping to spread SGML awareness in the Internet community, and that will in turn put pressure on vendors of text processing software to provide better support for SGML. Once WWW browser clients become grammar based, as the commercial Panorama viewer for IBM PC Windows has already done, there is no reason to restrict WWW documents to HTML; they could employ arbitrary SGML coding and document types. For the WYSIWYG word processors, the spread of HTML use is probably a good thing, since it may force them in the direction of structured, rather than visual, markup. TeX's power as a typesetting engine can be used behind the scenes as a backend part of an SGML -> TeX system: Arbortext has been doing this quite successfully for a number of years as a commercial organization, and several publishers that I know of do the same with home-grown translation systems. ======================================================================== Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB Internet: beebe@math.utah.edu University of Utah URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Salt Lake City, UT 84112, USA ======================================================================== ------------------------------ From: jaffer@tif173.ed.ray.com ( Dave Jafferian ) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:51:10 -0500 Subject: Where is Dr. Von Bechtolsheim ? Does anyone have an email address for Stephan v. Bechtolsheim, the author of the TeXPS package (c) 1987, 1988 distributed with TeX-3.14 ? 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